Stumbled upon this and laughed... but then wondered how the AJAS members would reply to this scenario?

Scenario: Classroom full of normal people in a screening room. Suddenly an anime pops up briefly with 2 moe looking girls screaming. One of the student jumps up and decides to make a wise crack and yells “HENTAI!” before the entire ignorant class burst out laughing. And there you are sitting on your chair, clenching your fist in anger as your otaku pride burns up, deciding whether to protest at his stupidity for labeling that anime as hentai. The girls in class are laughing a long with him, in fact, you like that one particular girl in there, and some of the guys are slapping his back for that excellent joke. You’re still contemplating, even though you know it’s false and complete stupid. The blasphemy. The teacher tells everyone to settle down.

You have no brothers in arm, nobody nearby wears a hint of anime merchandise, other than that weird fat girl by the corner of the class that always read very strange mangas. You could have sworn you’ve never seen any girls in that manga at all. Those people starts talking bad about anime, as though it’s all about cartoon porn. The anger in you burns. It’s a different kind of moe.

What will you do?

Well, now I know where you've been...

As for the answer, I would lol quietly to myself at the guy, because chances are he's just a typical, normal, blödsinnig human.

I'd laugh at the class. It is obvious this is a class of wee-a-boos, because only they would bother to try to know what hentai actually means.

Actually they could be normal people. The scenario reminded me of when I was in high school. A few of the guys in my class had found some crappy online hentai flash game and instantly linked it to "those Japanese cartoons" I watch. Being the otaku I am I had to inform them of the difference between anime and hentai but it resulted in them calling all anime hentai and constantly making remarks that I watch cartoon porn.

now you know why i have such trouble dealing with humans: the vast majority of them are stupid and ignorant and try to maintain themselves as such. what's worse is that they're happy because of it.
oh well, all the more reason to be a bit more careful about the people you choose to hang around

You don't choose classmates.

Seeing as Hentai means perverted, they could be correct depending upon the title and how prudish they are. The real method to fix them would be to force them to watch some of the really traumatic stuff and then explain the difference. You're still alienated from the rest, but you get revenge.

Traumatic stuff wouldn't have helped in my case as it would have made things worse for me. We are talking country hicks who see anything that is drawn must be for kids and would say "Watch a real porno", no matter how traumatic it gets they'd still say it would be better if it were real. Plus the most perverted anime I had was Love Hina.

In the other guy's scenario that method wouldn't work either as the only girl that would go near him afterward is that fat girl by the corner... maybe.

This scenario doesn't seem like they creator even wanted a solution to be found. How the hell do they expect you to be able to change the opinions of children, especially ignorant one that are prepared to resist learning. The only solutions I can offer are to either swallow your pride as an otaku or blutig their faces. The like macho bullshit, it should go down well.

Mappy has the correct answer, however wouldn't even bother even demonstrating at all, cause if the anime is moe perfect chance that there's gonna be a payout for otakus, besides 4channers wouldn't react to this cause we definitely know what anime (they would be correct since every anime spawns at least 1-2 H doujinshi on it) is about. 4channers seen everything since the Rule 34 is in Mass Effect and reaches in the far destinations of the Internet, so the above scenario would be true in all accounts and their isn't much of rebuttal thats if they don't mention the chan websites.

The best solution would be to show the class Battle Royale, then have a squad of soldiers, with weapons ready, march into the classroom when it finishes. I would then ask the students if they took notes from the film, because they were going to field-test this new educational method.

Ryan has a point, though. There is no solution to this. You aren't going to convince any of these little tards (remember: teenagers' brains are considered structurally underdeveloped enough for them to be viable candidates for mental disability support if they were presented as adults) that anime is anything other than what they want to think it is. So why try?

Besides, why would a teacher put an anime on in a class? The scenario is just stupid. Something only an /a/sshole would think up. Oh, wait.... I'm....

*Anime is also thought of as lowly in its home country.

The scenario creator is a film student. My answer when I first read it was that in that situation I wouldn't care what others thought of anime anyway because I know plenty of more informed people who enjoy it. If I were to do anything I would casually comment to the individual about how misinformed they are after class.

My user name is Last Exile. Do you honestly think I care about what others think considering what happened in 2003?

From what I remember from high school, reason is pointless with idiots like that. They're usually the same kind of effluent residue that make gook jokes about Japanese people and assume they know how to make spring rolls.

I would stand up for it and if any of them protested I would rearrange their faces...That is if I were strong enough...

The correct course of action would be, of course, to pull out your copy of sex warrior pudding and show them the difference. Then you could have a class discussion on the relationship between hentai and real life scenario's, possibly with roleplaying demonstrations to enhance the debate.

There are several stigmas against anime that linger in most people:

1. A lot of people don't differentiate between the kiddie carttons US people make and anime. To most people, anime is just cartoons made by the Japanese. Cartoons = kids material. If you can break that train of thought, then a person might come around to it.

2. Series or movies that are seen to typify all of anime. 'The War', Naruto, DBZ, Bleach - or the other extreme of Miyazaki material. That anime is either shounen-directed with mürrisch guys, mecha/punchups and the girls either being stuck up or submissive, or the Miyazaki version where all adults are vile scum, that only kids know the way and that good always prevails despite any rationality. Ask a person what they know of anime and they'll most likely reply with stuff from early morning free TV or a Miyazaki movie. There is more out there and better people at the helm too. Break that stigma and you really stand a chance.

3. The dub/Western problem - so some people may watch anime but they don't want to embrace the Japanese side of it. They simply want to watch the visuals but demand English voices. Part of the attraction, the atmosphere, is the fact it is their product and not ours. But here, the US and such, it's dub central. So you get screwy voices, some of the atmosphere and cultural feel are lost. And that lower quality again repels people. Add the problem that in the main markets in the US, some people will only watch the series that feel more western, like Cowboy Bebop and Trigun - both fine series, but let's be frank. They got popular because the Western World related to them and they were both series that failed in Japan. A simillar fate encapsulated Samurai Champloo. However, there is a fact to face here - the US fuels most of the sales these days. So marketing to the US is a reasonable ploy in the end.

4. Overproduction of medicore crap - most of the stuff made, we never see. If you look through the last few years enough, you see more being made. Quantity does not compensate for quality. The dip seen in 2004-2005 was due to this and 2006 was only a small step in the quality direction. 2007 is faring a bit better.

5. Budgets and TV deadlines. You're given less than you need and a harsh time schedule. So you cut corners to make ends meet. It's a harsh reality. But in the end the product suffers and it's another for the trash pile.

6. Anime is a niche market. Because of its origins, style and caricatures, it will always be a niche market,as will most things in life. Each to their own. It's near impossible to get a large percentage of adults to like the same thing. As for kids, that's actually possible. Any surprise that the more kiddish stuff actually dominates the ratings? Each to their own.

7. Cost. It's not cheap being an anime fan. $17-$20 per manga volume, $20-$30 per DVD, $5-$150 for a figure, $30-100 for an artbook, $30 for a legit soundtrack, $20-$35 for a wall scroll, etc. But if you persevere, good on you. But let's be frank - anime DVDs are overpriced. When you have to pay $100-$170 for all of a recent series, that's painful.

8. The licensing problem. Why do anime directors and the like in Japan not get that much money generally? Because when a title goes overseas, the Japanese side sells off all the rights to the American company who will market it. They get a one-time payment and that's it. No continual proportion of all sales. Sound unreasonable? Of course it is! But try getting the US side to change it. But it's a necessity. The Japanese side needs more funding and to get more of the profits from sales to be a better industry. Until then, retards like Mr. Smith can enjoy the recession.

9. World War 2. No offense intended, but it's true. Some habits/hatreds die hard. There are those in the current generation that still resent the Japanese.

10. Lack of a cool factor? Like Mappy said, anime isn't really a cool or highly looked upon thing in Japan anyway. So why expect it to be internationally?

That's how I see it.

Last Exile wrote:10. Lack of a cool factor? Like Mappy said, anime isn't really a cool or highly looked upon thing in Japan anyway. So why expect it to be internationally?

The reverse is true, of course, with manga.

Madman wrote:The correct course of action would be, of course, to pull out your copy of sex warrior pudding and show them the difference. Then you could have a class discussion on the relationship between hentai and real life scenario's, possibly with roleplaying demonstrations to enhance the debate.

now the question is: are you really going to get away with doing that at school?
not that there's anything wrong with that hentai, it's quite funny, much like most of the other ones. and before anyone asks, there is nobody having sex with dessert items in it, though there are things similar to tentacle monsters

Last Exile wrote:10. Lack of a cool factor? Like Mappy said, anime isn't really a cool or highly looked upon thing in Japan anyway. So why expect it to be internationally?

Around 80% of this generation of Multimedia students in Adelaide think it's cool.

Well, it's a shame that 80% of the population aren't multimedia students, then.

Meh... I was just saying anime is popular with a lot of people I know. A lot of art students too.
A shame most of them are too lazy to go to AJAS.

Madman wrote:The correct course of action would be, of course, to pull out your copy of sex warrior pudding and show them the difference. Then you could have a class discussion on the relationship between hentai and real life scenario's, possibly with roleplaying demonstrations to enhance the debate.

And while we are at it, lets pull our anime version of Kodomo no Jikan, and compare that to Warrior Sex pudding. So you have 2 choices your either a PERV or a PEDO which one will it be? Not having a go at you but to show some shows go to really low levels besides anime brought us 4chan .

Pirate Man wrote:

Madman wrote:The correct course of action would be, of course, to pull out your copy of sex warrior pudding and show them the difference. Then you could have a class discussion on the relationship between hentai and real life scenario's, possibly with roleplaying demonstrations to enhance the debate.

And while we are at it, lets pull our anime version of Kodomo no Jikan, and compare that to Warrior Sex pudding. So you have 2 choices your either a PERV or a PEDO which one will it be? Not having a go at you but to show some shows go to really low levels besides anime brought us 4chan .

And some people wonder why people hate otaku.

Atory wrote:Meh... I was just saying anime is popular with a lot of people I know. A lot of art students too.
A shame most of them are too lazy to go to AJAS.

You just have good taste in whom you associate with. The nerd, geek and otaku cultures tend to get along rather well. NHK is an example of this.

All of my associates would rather sink a six-pack of West End then watch the latest episode of Wolf and Spice. Except one, but she's a harpoonable yaoi fangirl, so she doesn't count.

What's wrong with watching Wolf and Spice?

The fact that you are watching Wolf and Spice?

The way Ryan was hyping it, I was expecting more of it. Meh, it's still an alright show.

Atory wrote:The way Ryan was hyping it, I was expecting more of it. Meh, it's still an alright show.

Famous last words?

I'm guessing he likes it so much because of the catgirl, well wolfgirl actually.

It's early days still so maybe I'll like it more as the story progresses.

Atory wrote:You don't choose classmates.

Indeed. School is the only place where groups are decided entirely on the year you were born in. And people who think their school days were the best days of their lives must have had pretty crappy lives post-school.

Atory wrote:What's wrong with watching Wolf and Spice?

furfaggotry nuff said.

edible_hat wrote:
>> And people who think their school days
>> who think their school days
>> School Days

Great show, love the ending.

Is this how it done bazza? I don't know the meme.

edible_hat wrote:

Atory wrote:You don't choose classmates.

Indeed. School is the only place where groups are decided entirely on the year you were born in. And people who think their school days were the best days of their lives must have had pretty crappy lives post-school.

Damn right. Things finally got interesting once I hit 18 and high school was behind me. All these people that say your school days are far more valuable than your time as an adult - what a load of crap.

Last Exile wrote:Damn right. Things finally got interesting once I hit 18 and high school was behind me. All these people that say your school days are far more valuable than your time as an adult - what a load of crap.

They say that because they were in a deluded state back in high school, coddled from having to fend for themselves in the real world. Once the purse strings were cut and life got a whole phoaqueload harder, it became by orders of magnitude less fun.
I was glad to be rid of high school. 12 and a half years of abject boredom peppered with brief moments of abject terror. Life was so much better when I didn't have to deal with it, anymore.

I didn't remember most of my high school , ... probably coz i buried it in 6m of mental concrete in order to not remember most of it .

That said , it wasn't fun ; ... simple as that .

Psike81 wrote:probably coz i buried it in 6m of mental concrete in order to not remember most of it .

I'd like to see that concrete slab. I'm hoping the people were still inside when it happened?

To answer the topic at hand, no I wouldn't defend anime.

In fact, I enjoy mocking anime regularly.

Xenesis wrote:To answer the topic at hand, no I wouldn't defend anime.

In fact, I enjoy mocking anime regularly.

The suit helps.

All I really need is a monocle and I'm set. ^_^

I was about to say.... are you Jake or Elwood?

I'm not enough of a beanpole to be Elwood, so I guess it'd have to be Jake.