Dhumahn wrote:Remember kiddies, Avcon is on this week, so be sure to make the people running it really annoyed at you for pointing out 'all the little things' that are wrong with it.

Like how you pay $30 for 2 days entertainment and they can't even be bothered rebuilding the Adelaide Uni campus to make it more accessible to people with twin prams...

and that no one from the avcon staff groupings did anything about the can tower behind my table at quiz night until someone knocked it over. they kept saying its not their fault that they didnt put a stop to it before someone threw something at it.... and locked my thread when I asked for the person that threw objects at it and knocking it over onto several people to come forward and apologize to those that he/she hit.

Dhumahn wrote:Remember kiddies, Avcon is on this week, so be sure to make the people running it really annoyed at you for pointing out 'all the little things' that are wrong with it.

is it just me or is your timing off by a week?

No, the 17th (which this thread is about) is the week before AVCon.

it's his timing! heh oh wait, 17th.. yeah that makes sense now

edible_hat wrote:No, the 17th (which this thread is about) is the week before AVCon.

fair enough, it's just confusing when he chose to write that statement as if it's in the future

IceLee wrote:and that no one from the avcon staff groupings did anything about the can tower behind my table at quiz night until someone knocked it over. they kept saying its not their fault that they didnt put a stop to it before someone threw something at it.... and locked my thread when I asked for the person that threw objects at it and knocking it over onto several people to come forward and apologize to those that he/she hit.

We know who knocked over at least one of the tables can towers, but we are protecting that person.

-_- did he hit someone on the head ( my head actually) with one of the cans that fell from the tower?

p.s the biggest can tower... did he knock that over? if he didnt then hes safe... I just want an apology for the blutig headache... XD

I don't think your table was close enough to mine for it to be the can tower I'm thinking of.

then he's safe. we were table number four that time I believe

I don't remember much about the can tower. I do remember that Tim's pizza looked like a mutant pile of nuclear sludge....

Greg is also a volunteer at AVCon.... I think.

it was the biggest can tower, people kept throwing stuff at it
and someone who threw something managed to knock it over, and a can or two rained down onto my head hardish, but lucky for the dummkopf, it was empties... but hurts alot.

we had an extra pizza i believe.

All I will say is: they better have the pizza situation sorted out this year, if they're having pizzas at all during the quiz night. They thought they had it sorted out last year, but the shop involved let them down big-time.

yep they better.... it took too long and too many mix ups.

I say we get our own pizzas delivered from Marcellinas.

Whilst Marcellinas are much more expensive, their pizzas are far better than Aussie, by ingredients alone. But I doubt we'd be allowed to.

With all this negativity about AVCon, it'll probably turn out to be fantastic. Maybe we should take bets on whether it better/worse than 2006.

Mappy wrote:the shop involved let them down big-time.

They apparently thought "we want the pizzas at this time" meant "you can start cooking at this time"

edible_hat wrote:

Mappy wrote:the shop involved let them down big-time.

They apparently thought "we want the pizzas at this time" meant "you can start cooking at this time"

And the manager, who had made all the promises about being able to fill the order, had gone home (or whatever it was he was doing at the time) and they discovered the shop had about one oven to cover the order. So those who went to pick the order up ended up helping to make the pizzas themselves. I suppose, under those circumstances, we can forgive the things for not being perfect when they arrived on our tables. But you'd still imagine that it would be better to be safe than sorry and try and cover the order with a number of different APH's throughout the city. I've been to four different ones....

maybe they'll be more organised this year, which should be my first going to the quiz night as well as avcon

Go with what the ACS does... call Pizza Hut. If they need the services of other Pizza Huts they organise it themselves.

I hear a rumor that the AJAs and UniSAGA is merging into a team for quiz night.... asked the scrubs expert of unisaga if he'd be available for quiz night so we'll see...

(mad) wrote:maybe they'll be more organised this year, which should be my first going to the quiz night as well as avcon

You've probably missed the good AVCons.... 2003-05 were the best. 2006 was certainly not as good as they were. But I stand to be corrected if this one is awesome. I also sit down to be corrected.

i went to last years avcon (must've not written that post well). it was alright, but then again, i spent a large portion of that time being distracted by something not organised by avcon

Mappy wrote:You've probably missed the good AVCons.... 2003-05 were the best.

'04 and '05 were better than last year, even though I thought last year was better. But once you correct for the new relationship high I was on at the time, the other ones were better.

yeah... poor unisaga group... dave was like, snuggling me up in dark corners... enough said on that matter... heh.. but yeah i cant say if last year was good or not because of the constant rain, the cold and the long hikes to avcon, the can tower thing... or the fact it was my first time there. i didnt win the art competition either!

AVCon has always suffered from being in the middle of Winter. That's why cosplayers should always choose costumes that reflect the time of the year. Choosing Rikku is probably not the smartest thing to do, as had been demonstrated in 2005....

I think the sun has come out only once in the five AVCons I've been to. Most of the time it is just plain cold and/or raining.

On top of this is the Plague of AVCon. Lots of people, many from different parts of the country, congregating together, bringing with them whatever lurgy that has been lurking around their circle of hell.... I've ended up feeling pretty horrible after three of the last four cons....

they put the bookings for tables for quiz night up early, see my post in general.

I'm one of those evil bastards that brings sickness and disease to AVCOn every year, I can feel it starting now.
Sam, the owner of Parafield Marcellinas told me that for an order of 200 pizzas, he could get them all delivered into the city by a time specified by the customer, charge only $10 a pizza and would throw in a free garlic bread with each pizza. The only problem he could see was Marcellinas in the city wouldn't be amused by him stealing business from them, but they could probably do the same deal if you approached them.

Do we know where they're getting food for the Quiz Night from, this year? They seemed pretty browned off by the treatment by APH last year....

its aph apparently, ill give you the list of pizza's to order if youre coming to unisaga tonight, mappy...

Unfortunately, I can't be at UniSAGA tonight....

dammit! ill IM you sometime soon ok? pizza orders are large sized, 6.50 each of course...
so I'll IM you the menu but your name and jim is definetly down on the UniSAGA-AJAS table team list. just need pizza orders.

Mmm... Pizza, Kitty's getting hungry. lol.

oi mappy didnt you have a wedding to go to on saturday night?

Saturday morning, with the reception in the afternoon. We'll be racing there for the Quiz Night, though.

ok then! pizza menu as it is:

hawaiian
all meats
bbq chicken
supreme
mexican
pepperoni
vegetarian
dangerous mushroom
margarita

6.50 each, large size.

so what will it be?

Supreme, as always with me.

ok, will add that to the rest of the pizza orders. what about Jim?

He says a Dangerous Mushroom. And a Garlic Bread, if they have them on the order sheet....

ok we'll see on the garlic bread.

I would like to change my vote to 'yes'.

a yes to what?

>>a yes to what?

>>Is this thread more about AVCon than about the playlist for the 17th of July?

Surely a vote for "the Pocky costs too much" is the same as a "yes"...


(speaking of Pocky, since I'll be in town next thursday to pick up my DS Lite, I think I'll go to the Asian grocery stores in Central Market for a Pocky run)

ok hon, youre dragging me around town anyway

Mappy wrote:All I will say is: they better have the pizza situation sorted out this year, if they're having pizzas at all during the quiz night. They thought they had it sorted out last year, but the shop involved let them down big-time.

Hmmm, we only heard one side of the story and even then it didnt even convince me that the pizza situation wasnt GAP's fault, well actually it wasnt if they didnt prepaid for the pizzas. They did say 'that they will have the extra staff' but did they prepaid at least for 20 pizzas as a small estimate? Did they actually discuss it with the manager in question or the second in charge?

Even the prepaid issue should of been done then it would of been Great Australian Pizzas fault but from what I'm hearing, it looks like Avcons fault. It's like Ebay/business you dont ask them to make/send stuff without paying for it and now people have to pre-order pizzas before the avcon quiznight? What next? Do people have to ask to go to the toilet in the middle of quiznight?

2003 was easily the best AvCon. The only year with a decent anime lineup, cosplay was good, merchandise was good, rooms were good and it lead me to AJAS and my inevitable meeting with the one series I will consider to be the greatest for eternity.

Pirate Man wrote:

Mappy wrote:All I will say is: they better have the pizza situation sorted out this year, if they're having pizzas at all during the quiz night. They thought they had it sorted out last year, but the shop involved let them down big-time.

Hmmm, we only heard one side of the story and even then it didnt even convince me that the pizza situation wasnt GAP entirely there fault well actually it wasnt if they didnt prepaid for the pizzas. They did say 'that they will have the extra staff' but did they prepaid at least for 20 pizzas as a small estimate? Did they actually discuss it with the manager in question or the second in charge?

Even the prepaid issue should of been done then it would of been Great Australian Pizzas fault but from what I'm hearing, it looks like Avcons fault. It's like Ebay/business you dont ask them to make/send stuff without paying for it and now people have to pre-order pizzas before the avcon quiznight? What next? Do people have to ask to go to the toilet in the middle of quiznight?

yeah and Im a bit disgusted with avcon staff right now for their treatment of atory's allergies... one of them had the nerve to suggest CHOCOLATE to him...

There's no specific rule against bringing your own food...

true...

Would you want to have to lug your own food everywhere during the event, though?

thats what I was thinking, mappy. Id rather have my food piping hot at that, after a very cold day of wandering around avcon.

you could always dash off to one of the numerous takeaways that are not too far away from Adelaide Uni

So here's a good question

Is AVCON a convention or a ghost meeting? I'm betting to see if Casper comes and shakes everybody's hand and the headless horseman to make an appearance.

Jason... just what have you been drinking?!?

IceLee wrote:Jason... just what have you been drinking?!?

Well from what AVCon are doing right now changing rules under our feet about every second, I wonder if it will be a convention.

really? I hadnt noticed the rule changes... is there something we should know, Jason, you lurk there more often than I do...

IceLee wrote:really? I hadnt noticed the rule changes... is there something we should know, Jason, you lurk there more often than I do...

Your giving me the information Candice, the preordering of pizzas, the prebooking of tables, the nice 2 day period of prebooking of tickets, the list just goes on and on not to mention the pokemon tournament which you're miffed about as well. I dont have to lurk all I have to do is listen.

huh. hmm maybe youre right... I just didnt notice their maniplative ways.

DO NOT WANT

Atory wrote:DO NOT WANT

SECONDED! Stop talking about WoW already. This is a forum about AJAS and this topic is in the playlist section. WoW is NOT on the playlist, keep your comments elsewhere, preferably on a WoW forum.

On topic, petition to fund cheeseless pizzas for Scott on Saturday.

I would also appreciate any flammable liquid that would set Dutchy's beard on fire, potentially the rest of him as well.

IceLee besides my real disappointment in revealing my true name on the demon's forum, could you bring your Nintendo DS tonight I will 'help' you to get tournament ready in one night if it works XD.

I'm not at ajas tonight, Jason ( and it's more easier for me to say Jason than pirate man ) basically because I'm at taekwondo training.

P.S I knew you as "Jason" before "Pirate Man".

Last Exile wrote:On topic, petition to fund cheeseless pizzas for Scott on Saturday.

Please don't do this... I can't get a pizza because they have pre-ordered only specific choices (nothing special). However, Barron could get me a specially ordered pizza if I want one as he's a driver. All settled... and bonus points for Barron.

Can Barron eat chocolate? *checks first*

Yes he loves his chocolate (and money).

heh ok... ill get him a packet of pocky to say thank you on the behalf of unisaga and ajas

Ryan White wrote:I say we get our own pizzas delivered from Marcellinas.

Or someone drives down and picks them up.

that could work..

Plus we get to sit and eat our better pizzas while everyone else sits around waiting for their burned, cold and nasty APH pizzas.

There is no way the AVcon pizzas will be on time since they arrive later every year.

...

How, Jason? and hmm thats tempting asurin... ill have to ask the others if they want to cancel their orders and order at marcellina's...

THIS IS THE AVCON BITCHING THREAD, STOP DERAILING OR GTFO MY INTERNETS!

Atory wrote:THIS IS THE AVCON BITCHING THREAD, STOP DERAILING OR GTFO MY INTERNETS!

lulz, this thread goes off topic about as fast as the AVCon forum.

There's been more thread derailments here than on the AVCon forum lately.
Only because the AVCon committee are too busy to derail threads.

Don't look at me. I'm too busy doing other things to derail this trainwreck.

I set that pic up, didn't I?

As for the driver...he should have stayed home.

I told Rasberry he wasn't qualified....

Don't drink and drive, Ras.

and here i was thinking i was in 2007 when i was actually in 2008!

It will be when you wake up from the coma.

Alcohol induced, of course.

He should have known it was a trap. He'll probably blame it on the moe chick.

I blame it on the boogie.

Mappy wrote:I blame it on the boogie.

Michael Jackson boogie on train tracks would derail anyone.

after hours of hat making (damn hand sewing takes hours) I have finally finished my cosplay hat....

[spoiler]
[/spoiler]
any guesses?

We'll make sure to keep Atory's younger sister far away from you.

Come to cute animal cafe!

It's now becoming amazingly clear why some DVDs of that series got an MA rating and why some didn't. No wonder Sakaki was so shattered. ><

since this is the place to hündin about avcon, i've noticed how difficult it is to find out the start time on the main avcon page, still no idea where they've put it

Link to the schedule (which is a hot pink PDF): http://www.avcon.org.au/files/schedule07.pdf

hot pink? why?
so events start at 10, giving no indication when we can enter. then again, i could just show up at 9 am with my lappie and play games/further drain my uni internet quota while waiting for things to happen.
i know, i can make people jealous by playing utawarerumono

Doors does open to us pre regs at 9 or 9 30 am. You coming to launch tonight?

i might come along, it's not like i have anything better to do, though i might be late because i some work to do and i need to trim my beard, it's just too long ATM. i'll definitely bring my lappie if i'm coming tonight, Vika goes almost everywhere with me...

Back OT... there's already stuff to beatch about this year! The delay with getting the hoodies, the crappy showbags and the wuality if the launch movie (I didn't catch the title, but I think it was Dragonball Tree).

Well, I did happen to mention, on the AVCon Forum, my opinion on Super Tree Boy vs The Walking Volcano being the premiere film supplied by Madman Entertainment. Something along the lines of "you know just how much they respect AVCon by giving us this film as the opening night centrepiece".... AJAS played it last year, and the reaction was pretty lukewarm, to say the least.

But then, it was a GONZO film, so my opinions would be rarely balanced. What was the general reaction to the film afterwards. AJAS had the slow hand clap going....

The general reaction to the film halfway through was Pictochat and walking out.

Was there anyone left watching it by the end?

AVCon Reviews Thread is here.

This isn't really anything to do with the AVCON, but I really hate how all the stuff to buy from the vendors is just as expensive as buying in JBHiFi when they are on special. I can never find anything to buy, nothing jumps out at me and screams, cheap! That is my little rant.

There is very little, if anything, that is cheaper in the vendors hall than that which you can buy outside, in the retailers. Pulp Fiction does some X Number mangas for such and such a price deals, but really, that's about all. It goes somewhat against the ethos of conventions, themselves, to not have specials available....

Standard Rasberry reply:

Waicon had a better traders room! and the anime shop there - Empire actually do good con deals and they chuck some random freebies in with purchases.... i mean they supplied 100s of prizes to waicon, i would kill to have them attend avcon!

Might actually force Madman to raise their game. Even with other vendors selling dvds and mangas, it didn't stop most of the choice titles being no more worth buying at AVCon than anywhere else.

Quite apart from most said choice titles having passed my eyes at some stage in the recent past, thus not being as attractive to own on dvd as they might have been. I was more interested in the Ghibli collection, though.... They're worth getting on dvd. Must rifle through the stand, tomorrow, when I have more time....

Does anyone actually know how much it costs to be a vendor at AVCON??

Not in particular costings, but it can't be cheap for Madman to ship all that stuff from Melbourne and back.

You'd think they'd want to offer below retail prices to avoid having to take some of it back.

I was just curious for my own sake. I didn't find anything on the AVCON website so I thought I'd ask you guys.

edible_hat wrote:You'd think they'd want to offer below retail prices to avoid having to take some of it back.

There were certainly holes appearing in Pulp Fiction's little collection of mangas near the end of the con. So there was no real reason for Madman to be working to rule. Though Madman's $10 box (which had become a $5 box on Sunday) was starting to empty, too....

KittyKat wrote:I was just curious for my own sake. I didn't find anything on the AVCON website so I thought I'd ask you guys.

*shrug* You'd have to ask one of the vendors or one of the AVCon staff how much it costs. I don't think anyone here is exactly privy to that kind of info.

Mappy wrote:

edible_hat wrote:You'd think they'd want to offer below retail prices to avoid having to take some of it back.

There were certainly holes appearing in Pulp Fiction's little collection of mangas near the end of the con. So there was no real reason for Madman to be working to rule. Though Madman's $10 box (which had become a $5 box on Sunday) was starting to empty, too....

KittyKat wrote:I was just curious for my own sake. I didn't find anything on the AVCON website so I thought I'd ask you guys.

*shrug* You'd have to ask one of the vendors or one of the AVCon staff how much it costs. I don't think anyone here is exactly privy to that kind of info.

the Madmanstall is a weird one, they always have the $10 mangas, but their range of mangas is still tiny. The $10 DVD box was there, but the only non- V1 of something was a vampire hunter D, but that was cos the case got the knife treatment when being opened! The $10 V1s was and always be a smart marketing move, i mean it entices people to buy the series 1 at a time, at what..... $30 each, when the DVDs them selves will be released in a few months in a set of 6 for $120... on the flip side getting V1 is cool because it allows you to trial a series before you buy it.

to get a price of a traders table you would have to PM someone in charge in the AVcon forums, but the prices of 2008 have not been made yet as we have only just finished 2007. one thing to remember is that there is a differance between traders tables and artists tables, so if you are an artist, it would probably be better for you to get an artists table.

also get in early beacause the traders hall was booked out this year...

Quiz Night wrote:What part of AVCon is referred to as the "train wreck"?

This year - AVCon.

Their answer to a lot of criticism seems to be "it's run by volunteers, so you can't expect it to be that great". But Terra Nova is run by volunteers and they manage to start events on time and get rid of trouble makers quickly.

I ended up not going, so did I miss anything good?

Aside from hanging out that is.

asurin wrote:I ended up not going, so did I miss anything good?

Aside from hanging out that is.

Nope

the hanging out was probably the only reason it was any good. then again, it was partly like that for me last year, though i couldn't get it as good as that this year

edible_hat wrote:Their answer to a lot of criticism seems to be "it's run by volunteers, so you can't expect it to be that great".

Great. They don't think much of their volunteers, do they?

(mad) wrote:the hanging out was probably the only reason it was any good. then again, it was partly like that for me last year, though i couldn't get it as good as that this year

Well, having a girl hanging off your arm tends to help that.

Mappy wrote:

edible_hat wrote:Their answer to a lot of criticism seems to be "it's run by volunteers, so you can't expect it to be that great".

Great. They don't think much of their volunteers, do they?

Perhaps 2008 will not have the 10 volunteers and then we see how IRaidWith3DifferentWOWGuildsButIDissAnyoneElseWhoPlays and NederPie handle it.

edible_hat wrote:

Quiz Night wrote:What part of AVCon is referred to as the "train wreck"?

This year - AVCon.

Their answer to a lot of criticism seems to be "it's run by volunteers WHO DRINK LIKE FISHES IN THE SEA, so you can't expect it to be that great ". But Terra Nova is run by volunteers and they manage to start events on time and get rid of trouble makers quickly.

Fixed

I envy those volunteers.

really? most of the volunteers that i know don't drink that much

Compared to you, no one does.

I don't know about that... my uncle was in town a couple of weeks ago, and every evening we'd sit down with a few bottles of red. I matched him drink-for-drink, and had morning after gut (where you feel like you've got diarrhea but you really don't, it's due to alcohol damaging your gut lining) all the time he was here and 3 days after he went back to Brisbane.

You did WHAT, david?!? Thats quite dangerous! Youre getting a few words from me on friday -_-

This is why I drink beer. That and in thanks for not living in the US.
They invented Light beer.

not bad, though it's reasonably simple to keep yourself from going too far on wine. it's notably harder on spirits, especially when they're over %50 alcohol.
light beer is silly. most beer doesn't taste good enough to drink without the alcoholic effects and most of the light beer i've tasted tastes like watered down beer.
and the people i was talking about only ever have a couple of drinks, as far as i know and i don't think they know about long-island iced tea

The only "beers" I really like are dark ales and stouts. I find them somewhat easier on the palate whilst not exactly scrimping on the alcohol content (especially if they're from the UK or Ireland). Though I have found some very nice European dark ales as well.

The highest alcohol content beers I've had were still the Belgian boutique ones, though. The content levels in those are close to that of some spirits.

IceLee wrote:Thats quite dangerous!

That's why I'm not doing it again, so don't worry. Also, last week when I had no alcohol or coffee for a week I felt the best (mentally speaking, still had the pre-AVCon plague) I have for quite a while.

Milk, if you're not lactose intolerant: drink some before you have any alcohol. If helps to protect the stomach lining somewhat. Or so the old wives tale goes.

The best hangover prevention I know of is to take hospital-grade potassium and vitamin B supplements before drinking, also to alternate between booze and water. (Learned this from my aunt who's a retired nurse).

aspirin does a rather good job of fixing the headache from a hangover, in my experience

Doctors recommend Voltaren before and after your sessions and Berocca afterwards. Voltaren will prevent the swelling caused by NSAIDs and Berocca will replace the large amount of Vitamin b12 (riboflavin) that alcohol destroys.

Mappy wrote:Milk, if you're not lactose intolerant: drink some before you have any alcohol. If helps to protect the stomach lining somewhat. Or so the old wives tale goes.

Thats strange, because I've heard that beer turns milk sour in your gut, making you quite ill. As for other types of alcamahol, however, I don't know.

From personal experience I can say that drinking milk does help and so does eating greasy food. They slow down the rate at which the alcohol is absorbed through your stomach lining. Also, cured meats are great to consume while drinking.

The other thing to consider is rehydration with non-alcoholic fluids in between drinks, as osmosis will force alcohol out of your blood stream and replace it with water from other parts of your body. So if you keep fluids in your body, more water will already be in your system and a lower percentage of water will leave your cells to the bllodstream once osmosis fixes up the alcohol imbalance. As for Vitamin B12, it is one of the coenzymes in the Krebs Cycle from memory, which is one of the three stages of glucose metabolism in the body.

As for the milk and greasy food, my guess would be that milk fat and fats from greasy food would head towards the bilipid cell layers and linger there. The bilipid structure is set up so charged ends can attract each other at the surfaces while the neutral sides are directed inwards. Digestable fat molecules are generally in monoglyceride to triglyceride forms and are damn huge compared to the other stuff you're digesting. They will block up traffic down there so a midget molecule like alcohol is going to have two problems - getting through the traffic and generating enough forces of attraction when trying to get through cell walls.

Soap is made of a damn huge triglyceride molecule called sodium stearate, a 35 carbon molecule, fyi.

Is it true that magarine is one molecule close to being plastic?

Last Exile wrote:The other thing to consider is rehydration with non-alcoholic fluids in between drinks, as osmosis will force alcohol out of your blood stream and replace it with water from other parts of your body. So if you keep fluids in your body, more water will already be in your system and a lower percentage of water will leave your cells to the bllodstream once osmosis fixes up the alcohol imbalance. As for Vitamin B12, it is one of the coenzymes in the Krebs Cycle from memory, which is one of the three stages of glucose metabolism in the body.

As for the milk and greasy food, my guess would be that milk fat and fats from greasy food would head towards the bilipid cell layers and linger there. The bilipid structure is set up so charged ends can attract each other at the surfaces while the neutral sides are directed inwards. Digestable fat molecules are generally in monoglyceride to triglyceride forms and are damn huge compared to the other stuff you're digesting. They will block up traffic down there so a midget molecule like alcohol is going to have two problems - getting through the traffic and generating enough forces of attraction when trying to get through cell walls.

Soap is made of a damn huge triglyceride molecule called sodium stearate, a 35 carbon molecule, fyi.

Quoted from an unknown source, Reference your stuff please especially on facts like this.

Pirate Man wrote:

Last Exile wrote:The other thing to consider is rehydration with non-alcoholic fluids in between drinks, as osmosis will force alcohol out of your blood stream and replace it with water from other parts of your body. So if you keep fluids in your body, more water will already be in your system and a lower percentage of water will leave your cells to the bllodstream once osmosis fixes up the alcohol imbalance. As for Vitamin B12, it is one of the coenzymes in the Krebs Cycle from memory, which is one of the three stages of glucose metabolism in the body.

As for the milk and greasy food, my guess would be that milk fat and fats from greasy food would head towards the bilipid cell layers and linger there. The bilipid structure is set up so charged ends can attract each other at the surfaces while the neutral sides are directed inwards. Digestable fat molecules are generally in monoglyceride to triglyceride forms and are damn huge compared to the other stuff you're digesting. They will block up traffic down there so a midget molecule like alcohol is going to have two problems - getting through the traffic and generating enough forces of attraction when trying to get through cell walls.

Soap is made of a damn huge triglyceride molecule called sodium stearate, a 35 carbon molecule, fyi.

Quoted from an unknown source, Reference your stuff please especially on facts like this.

Molecular and Cell Biology I and Biochemistry II as taught by Lynn Rogers, Adelaide University lecturer.

Last Exile wrote:

Molecular and Cell Biology I and Biochemistry II as taught by Lynn Rogers, Adelaide University lecturer.

I love people quoting from heresy references not a referee.

Bazza wrote:

Mappy wrote:Milk, if you're not lactose intolerant: drink some before you have any alcohol. If helps to protect the stomach lining somewhat. Or so the old wives tale goes.

Thats strange, because I've heard that beer turns milk sour in your gut, making you quite ill. As for other types of alcamahol, however, I don't know.

I've drunk milk, followed by beer, and never had a problem with it. Mind you, I don't drink that much in the way of beer. Spirits and ciders, yes....

doesn't the normal contents of your stomach turn milk sour? once it's in your stomach it should be ok, i've always though

(mad) wrote:doesn't the normal contents of your stomach turn milk sour? once it's in your stomach it should be ok, i've always though

The stomach is primarily for the digestion of fats and proteins as well as breaking highly complex sugars down into less complex ones. Considering milk is mainly these components, hence why it is easily digested in the stomach. Anything other than fat and protein is digested in the duodenum.

(mad) wrote:doesn't the normal contents of your stomach turn milk sour? once it's in your stomach it should be ok, i've always though

The bacterial cultures you have living in your digestive system probably starts turning milk into yakult the moment you drink it. When you think about all the wondrous combinations of food that you choose to put together inside your gut without there being much in the way of effects, you soon learn to stop worrying about whether things like ice cream and vegemite are a good combination....

This thread has been utterly and conclusively hijacked. Twice.

Wasn't me!

i blame the avcon volunteers, as it appears to be trendy at the moment

Yep we blame Atory.

i probably wouldn't blame anyone specifically as i don't know the faces of half the people on these forums.
most of the volunteers i do know are from evac, though i'd rather not blame some of them...

I blame stomach bugs.

I blame society. It's to blame for everything.

Mappy wrote:I blame society. It's to blame for everything.

Blame the emos. They're more responsible.