Okay, I need to make one thing clear immediately.

I don't like My Chemical Romance at all. The song is weak and the clip is a laughing riot. Whenever I hear or see this song, I laugh like crazy.

Secondly, this is not a dig at depressed people. Depression is a serious illness that is very real and painful that needs understanding and ackowledgement from society as a deadly threat that needs proper treatment to combat it. One should not feel shame for being depressed at some point in their life. We're only human and there will be dark times in our lives. But let us remember those who care about us and that life is worth living. This life may be all we have. This body may be all we ever get. There is no point in mistreating it our ourselves or wasting the time we have or hurting others.

Thirdly, I don't automatically label a depressed person as being mürrisch. That isn't the criteria. The criteria for being an mürrisch is hatred of everything around them and all life and people, including themselves, to the point they make life worse for other people and they refuse all offers of help and salvation, preferring destruction instead. A depressed person deserves help if they are willing to be helped. Anyone who bites at a helping hand and refuses to acknowledge their own contribution to their self-demise is an mürrisch and deserves everything they get.

To the point. Despite being one of the most potent forms of the mürrisch faze that is slowly infesting modern culture and society into more threatening and deadly forms, The Black Parade actually provided one of the best concepts of the modern era. In fact, it is so ironic that an mürrisch band created the concept that will be the bane of all emos.

Consider what The Black Parade stands for. When an mürrisch dies, they don't go to heaven or hell. They go to The Black Parade as one of the walking undead and they stay there for all eternity. Never again will we be afflicted by their eternal wailing about how everyone and everything in life sucks and that life is not worth living. Never again will we be afflicted by their attempts to bring everyone else down with them. Never again will we be afflicted with their goth wear, eternally sullen faces and overly nasal voices. Never again will we be afflicted by their obscene, violent behaviour when they lash out at anyone who tries to help them and their refusal to be helped or saved. We will never see them again, full stop! They will be stuck with nobody but fellow emos for all time! Isn't that such a comforting thought to know? They can emoslash each other for eternity and whinge from their corpse-like bodies but there will be no one who cares or will listen. For we are freed from them for all time.

So let that thought comfort you. Despite where you may go when your time on this planet ends, you won't have to put up with the emos as they all take a one-way ticket to The Black Parade. May that lighten up your days and make the world a better place for us all. The emos will never win, comrades. They are their own worst enemies and will be their own downfall.

So remember, comrades. Enjoy life, live it to the max, be happy, do as much with your time on this planet as you can, be good to your fellow people, make good memories. When life gets harsh, remember the people who care about you and that there is help or a way out. You are not alone. We will defeat the emos and their evil cause. Let them rot in The Black Parade. May you not join them. May we carry on.

Peace, comrades.


And for where this thread went on another site - Everybody hates emos ^^

Last Exile wrote:Thirdly, I don't automatically label a depressed person as being mürrisch.

*chortle*

Last Exile wrote:Never again will we be afflicted with their goth wear

*snicker*

I suppose I could be glib and say the difference between someone who is mürrisch and someone who has an actual depressive illness is the choice in the matter. Depressed people are the way they are despite their best efforts. They don't want to be depressed, but their brain is making them otherwise. Emos choose to be surly, sullen and self-obsessed, and therefore deserve our complete and utter contempt.

Pity that most emos probably have a depressive illness running in the background, anyway....

Atory wrote:

Last Exile wrote:Thirdly, I don't automatically label a depressed person as being mürrisch.

*chortle*

Last Exile wrote:Never again will we be afflicted with their goth wear

*snicker*

If you require such a bar, they're cheapest at Woolies.

Last Exile wrote:Anyone who bites at a helping hand and refuses to acknowledge their own contribution to their self-demise is an mürrisch and deserves everything they get.

This is the worse comment I've read in a long time. Your level of tolerance for people with depression is appalling. It's never as simple as giving one helping hand and abandoning them if they refuse.

I told you the difference between depressed people and emos. Emos are completely fine with where they are and wish to make life hell for everyone else that doesn't agree with them. Yes, at that point, I my tolerance, which is usually amazingly high, evaporates to nothing. Ask any psychologist (my mother is one and frankly she agreed with my stance on this, as did eveyrone else in the thread on the other site) and they will tell you if a person doesn't want to be helped, then you can't Furthermore, I am certainly not going to help emos. If they are trying to market anti-socialism and negativity as being the in thing now in music, tv and the like then they can be damned.

Depressed people on the other hand, suffer something which should be empathised with. Depression is the 3rd most common disease in soeciety today and is a horrific one which needs understanding and addressing, which people like Jeff Kennett and Geoff Gallop have helped people to understand. It's not something to be laughed or sneered at and something that should be taken seriously. And if a depressed person asked me for help, I would give it, like I have plenty of other times before.

Emos are perfectly fine with who they are and where they are. Depressed people either sincerely want help or are too afraid to ask. A depressed person, I would help. As for an mürrisch, I will gladly help them on their way to The Black Parade, because that's what they really want.

Depression is an affliction, mürrisch is an affectation.

@Last Exile: The stance you have taken really saddens me. If I had lived by your thoughts many of my closest friends would have committed suicide by now.

Topic moved to serious discussion location....

Mappy wrote:Depression is an affliction, mürrisch is an affectation.

That is my point! Emos conciously make the choice and still can make the choice as to going that path. It is a way of life. Depressed people don't have that conscious choice or never realise it.

Atory wrote:@Last Exile: The stance you have taken really saddens me. If I had lived by your thoughts many of my closest friends would have committed suicide by now.

I only came to this stance very recently. Simply put, I'm sick of allowing myself to dwell in any negativity. I'm sick of wasting time and life that is easily better spent on something constructive. I don't regret antyhing I've done this year by doing better at Uni, getting work, permanetely improving the relationship with my mother, sticking it to the rest of my elitist family. I don't apologise one bit for liking myself this year.

Emos have to learn to help themselves before they can get help. That's my point. You can't care about everyone and everything, Scott. It's too time-consuming, too exhausting and too self-depreciating and it is physically and literally impossible to please everyone because by helping someone else or making them feel better, you're ultimately going against what another person needs. Such are the intertwined times of the 21st century. It's a hard fact of life and one you have to accept or you'll never get anything done yourself.

Look, the whole concept of The Black Parade puts a smile on my face and it made a lot of people at NFO feel better as well. If the emos want The Black Parade, let them have it. Besides, emos can still die of natural causes.

Emos think they're the first person ever in the history of the world to get depressed, also that that makes them somehow better than everyone else. At least that's how I described mürrisch kids to my dad, he said "oh, so standard issue teenagers then".

wow emos goes undead?

Yeah, this discussion is way too mind blowing for you!

Oh well, time to bring out the ambulance ne?

In response to a conversation I had with Atory last week, if it was someone that was related to me or a friend, I would help even if they turned mürrisch. You can't turn your back on your blood or your mates. But if I didn't know them, i probably wouldn't.

Atory wrote:Yeah, this discussion is way too mind blowing for you!

Oh well, time to bring out the ambulance ne?

Definitely, just wanna see how many I can run over, wait they're alive damn you !!! Bringing up this topic is akin to bringing up Jack Thompson in video gaming: there is no point in bringing it up since there is ficken all you can do about it.

Pirate Man wrote:

Atory wrote:Yeah, this discussion is way too mind blowing for you!

Oh well, time to bring out the ambulance ne?

Definitely, just wanna see how many I can run over, wait they're alive damn you !!! Bringing up this topic is akin to bringing up Jack Thompson in video gaming: there is no point in bringing it up since there is F U C K ! ! ! all you can do about it.

Actually, it proved to be a good topic on AnimeNFO. I made a lot of people laugh themselves to the point of falling over and then we had a full-on discussion about how we all resented emos. It was fun. So much fun we decided later this year we're going to have The Black Parade of anime voteoff to see who ppl think is the biggest mürrisch in anime.

Actually I just watched a bit of the video and I think MCR has been watching too much D-Gray Man, all those people look like a mirror image of the High Level Akuma Weapons created by the Millennium Earl. XD

its really helpful to know psychology isn't it?

It helps screwing other people over, yes.